Trump seems ready to negotiate on immigration, healthcare – but not abortion

President Barack Obama meets with President-elect Donald Trump in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, on Thursday. AP/Pablo Martinez Monsivais

President Barack Obama meets with President-elect Donald Trump in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, on Thursday. AP/Pablo Martinez Monsivais

President-elect Donald Trump signaled he was ready to negotiate on some of his toughest campaign positions on immigration and healthcare, suggesting the hardline stances that helped him win over conservative voters were starting points for deal-making in Congress.

But even as he said he was “fine” with the Supreme Court decision to validate gay marriage, he also repeated his pledge to seek to roll back the ruling that legalized abortion rights.

In his first prime-time interview since his election, Trump told “60 Minutes” he endorsed parts of President Obama’s healthcare overhaul that required coverage of Americans with pre-existing conditions and allowed people under the age of 26 to stay on their parents’ plan.

He said his main immigration priority would be to deport about 2 million undocumented immigrants he said had criminal records – a departure from an initial campaign vow to deport all of the estimated 11 million people in the country illegally. He also said the wall he vowed to build on the U.S. border with Mexico would be a fence in some places.

And in this snippet he talked about the fight to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion rights in 1973:

Lesley Stahl: During the campaign, you said that you would appoint justices who were against abortion rights. Will you appoint– are you looking to appoint a justice who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade?

Donald Trump: So look, here’s what’s going to happen– I’m going to– I’m pro-life. The judges will be pro-life. They’ll be very—

Lesley Stahl: But what about overturning this law–

Donald Trump: Well, there are a couple of things. They’ll be pro-life, they’ll be– in terms of the whole gun situation, we know the Second Amendment and everybody’s talking about the Second Amendment and they’re trying to dice it up and change it, they’re going to be very pro-Second Amendment. But having to do with abortion if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states. So it would go back to the states and–

 Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but then some women won’t be able to get an abortion?

 Donald Trump: No, it’ll go back to the states.

Lesley Stahl: By state—no some —

 Donald Trump: Yeah.

 Donald Trump: Yeah, well, they’ll perhaps have to go, they’ll have to go to another state.

 Lesley Stahl: And that’s OK?

Donald Trump: Well, we’ll see what happens. It’s got a long way to go, just so you understand. That has a long, long way to go.

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236 comments
Willie Weatherspoon
Willie Weatherspoon

Another man trying to rule over the women's body. Call, email, write, DOJ secret service, representatives, congressmen/women, electoral college, and Let's try to make this right by sending the petition to the electoral college. They totally ignored that Trump has ties to Russia and white hate groups. They meet December 19th. Please sign and share this petition https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=52216556&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_page&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-no_msg

D Evonne Moss
D Evonne Moss

He will appoint Supreme Court Judges that are pro-life. Roe vs. Wade will get overturned.

Melody Dareing
Melody Dareing

There has to be a case come before them first. That would take years if it ever happens.

Josie Redwine
Josie Redwine

Roe v Wade will not be overturned because conservative power-mongers do not want it overturned. We had Republican administrations 1968-76, 2000-12, and 2000-08, and it's still the law, right? Why overturn it when it can be dusted off and sensationalized every four years to convince low-information voters to vote against their own interests to save unwanted, as-yet-un conceived fetuses of women they will never know. Conservative Christians, your own progeny will suffer deprivation due to the lack of arable land, drinkable water, and breathable air because you blew off global warming and mortgaged their future for the aforesaid unborn. It's a long con and you keep falling for it.

D Evonne Moss
D Evonne Moss

I was one of those "unwanted" babies. My Mother chose life and put me up for adoption instead of killing me. I, my husband, children and grandchildren are very thankful my biological mother chose life instead of death. I know a lot of adoptees that feel the same way.

Doug Rogers
Doug Rogers

The conservative Republican hypocrites what government out of thier life and into the reproductive lives of women.

Michael Klein
Michael Klein

The AJC is so stupid, people who voted for Trump always knew these things were in some part a negotiation. If they weren't the AJC would be reporting "Trump is a Dictator and inflexible" Did the AJC go out of business from it's subscribers wiping their behinds with their print copies and suing for paper cuts or do they just Suck at being journalists?

Georgia Blue
Georgia Blue

All fascist countries demand their women be incubators.

Steve Britt
Steve Britt

Why would he even go after abortion before he makes his supreme court appointments? Why would any president do that? AJC has some of the most ignorant journalist on earth.

Steve Britt
Steve Britt

Daniel Eason I've seen you post before. You are a special guy. I am wise enough to know you don't argue with stupid. So go get yourself a mirror bud. See how it works for you.

Steve Britt
Steve Britt

Daniel Eason Are you the moron who wrote this dumb article?

Sandra Dale Sikes
Sandra Dale Sikes

This is the usual eye-catching crap used by anti-Trump people.......as far as abortion, if the lawfulness of it goes back to the states, what is the problem? Frankly, abortion as birth control is a horrific act, murdering an unborn CHILD, and once a fetus can feel pain the abortion is heinous in nature, certainly not something anyone should choose who has a conscience. Prevent pregnancy, be smart.

Sandra Dale Sikes
Sandra Dale Sikes

How many abortions have you had that you regret, Deborah? Your anger is palpable.....your assumption that pro-life people do not care about other issues is incorrect. Obamacare, by the way, was set up so EVERYONE would have healthcare. Of course, it was meant to implode, and it did. Abused children will always be a problem if those knowing of it refuse to tell the authorities. Foster homes are not ideal, not always safe, but a child does not deserve to be a used in any sense of the word. Poverty is a related issue, unfortunately, as children living in poverty suffer. When people join together, the impossible becomes possible. I am so sorry you are so angry and have no focus to build on which would benefit the poor, the abused, those needing healthcare.

Tracy Bumgarner
Tracy Bumgarner

Sandra Dale Sikes, if you are sincere as you are in your comments, then why did Georgia Republicans attack the poor, disabled, homeless, single mothers, etc?? It doesn't look like pro life to me.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

For now, those Trump conned are yawning, because they didn't actually vote on the issues. Their vote had about as much thought behind it as voting at a wet T-shirt contest. They never expected to be living with the winner for the next four years.

Ron Conroy
Ron Conroy

And lastly, when it comes to government reforms, you've got some of the dates correct, but you haven't assigned credit appropriately. Here's a little reminder, "Contract with America". And, I'm still laughing...

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

I notice you say "Since Reagan, the federal government has gone through several rounds of clean-up and efficiency measures." I'm glad you noted that this happened "since Reagan," and not while Reagan... because Reagan certainly didn't make our federal government efficient. That began with the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, as Clinton's first budget proposal. It raised taxes on the rich, and cut spending (better efficiency). And not one (count em on no hands) congressional Republican voted for that legislation that had the effect of reducing Clinton's first four budget deficits, and then turning into four successive budget surpluses. What's more, the welfare overhaul, in 1995-96, was taken from two models: Wisconsin's and Hawaii's. And both were instituted by the Democrats in those two states. Congressional Democrats had already started the overhaul in Congress, prior to Gingrich and his clan gaining control.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

The federal government has fewer employees on the payroll serving 324 million Americans than Reagan had serving 245 million.

Ron Conroy
Ron Conroy

Actually, we're laughing... Laughing at your little temper tantrums... Laughing at your incessant whining... Laughing at your name-calling and childish accusations... And, laughing because you still don't get it. We voted on the biggest issue Trump promised, and that was to reverse many of the new regulations, policies, executive orders and government expansion that the Section 8, Sub-3% President pushed for the last 8 years. And, best of all, he made it easy for us to reverse his foolishness because he imposed much of it through executive orders rather than actual legislation, and all Trump has to do is write one executive order to reverse all of it. We're laughing... We're laughing out loud!

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

Obama has actually signed fewer executive orders than most presidents.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

US oil production is up under Obama, with the US now a net exporter for the first time in decades.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

What regulations do you imagine Obama thrust on US businesses?

Ron Conroy
Ron Conroy

Still laughing, especially at how you responded... - The difference with Obama's executive orders is that many of them imposed broad sweeping changes typically reserved for legislation, while those of other presidents were more symbolic and less influential in nature. The quantity argument is childish and weak. - Since Reagan, the federal government has gone through several rounds of clean-up and efficiency measures. The social spending programs of yesterday were some of the most inefficient government boondoggles. If I recall correctly, less than 60 cents of every Social Security dollar actually went to the recipients, while the rest was eaten up by administration and multiple levels of bureaucracies. Of course now, we also have computers, and the Cold War has long since ended. - In this particular instance, US oil production has less to do with the Executive Branch and more to do with the advent of new technologies in the oil industry. In fact, oil production has increased despite actions that his administration took to close off lands, terminate lease agreements and approve fewer permits. Much of the oil production has come from private lands, while production on federal lands has been declining. - I can't even begin to address the types of regulations that have been forced on the American people, but these are things that have been imposed with almost no legislative oversight and virtually no impact analysis. We're talking about FDA expansions with no health studies or reports to support or justify their actions. We're talking about EPA standards that cannot be met with current technology putting plants and mining operations out-of-business and striking up countless lawsuits. We're talking about new ADA regulations that conflict and contradict new EPA and OSHA regulations, none of which make any sense to a logical person. I can go on for hours. It's sickening, and it's ridiculous.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

Your recollection is mistaken with regard to Social Security administration. The Obama administration did end several long-held drilling permits on federal lands. Those were permits that companies were holding to block others, rather than to drill. Much of the new drilling is going to be on lands, and in waters, that Obama has opened. Much of the present drilling is being done with technologies (as you admit) that have gotten approval from this administration. You keep claiming you could cite regulations; even that you could go on for hours. And yet, you haven't cited anything. Neat.

Ron Conroy
Ron Conroy

Still laughing at you.... Now, this is just a pissing contest. - I'm not mistaken regarding Social Security. It's what lead to the changes in 1983. I remember the speeches. I remember the waste. - You're delusional with respect to oil. See below with the best quote being, "These are the latest in a series of Obama administration rules designed to slow the extraction of fossil fuels from American public lands and waters." - Lastly, I've given you examples of where you can look for what I'm talking about. I can get into specifics, but I've got other things to do right now. (Just let me know.) http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/latest-of-obamas-safety-rules-on-arctic-drilling-are-released.html?_r=0

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

Well, funny boy, let's take these one at a time. As for your recollection of Social Security administration, you said: "less than 60 cents of every Social Security dollar actually went to the recipients, while the rest was eaten up by administration and bureaucracies." Well, here is the actual truth; the history of administrative costs of the Social Security Administration, from the first year to today: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/admin.html You guys laugh at the dumbest things.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

Now, the Obama administration has passed clean energy standards, and those standards have benefited natural gas production. But he also lifted the decades old ban of exporting US oil, which has benefited US production far more than clean energy standards have hurt. And the numbers bare this out: US oil production is up by 82%, under this administration. Your interpretation of the record and the present situation of US oil is based upon the whining of industry advocates who are paid to tell us how bad things are, for oil production, at the very time when oil production is at record levels, and new, long sought after areas are now opening for drilling. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-05/despite-protests-oil-industry-thrives-under-obama-energy-agenda

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

And for goodness sake, take a potty break if you need. Don't wet yourself.

Ron Conroy
Ron Conroy

You're such a child, but this does give me something to laugh about. - You're obviously too young to remember the fraud and abuse of these social spending programs. As mentioned, Reagan instituted a number of reforms to clean up some of the abuses. I trust the SSA reporting on themselves about as much as I trust the Clinton Foundation or a Copperhead snake. What do you think led to the 1983 reforms? - It's amazing how you can spin the oil production argument as a pro-Obama story. The industry has grown despite his actions. Even your own reference complains of the stifling regulations, and while it references to new waters being opened up in the Atlantic, one of my references clearly states that Obama later reversed that decision. Assigning credit to Obama for increased oil production is absolutely absurd. - Since you are incapable of truly understanding the executive order discussion, I'll share some things for you to read. http://freebeacon.com/issues/obamas-executive-orders-longer-and-more-restrictive-than-previous-administrations/

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

There is truth in facts, and the following numbers are facts. You're relying on campaign rhetoric (Contract with America) for your beliefs. Notice that deficits began to fall under GHW Bush, because top tax rates actually nudged up under him, and Defense spending didn't grow quite as rapidly as it had under Reagan. Then notice that deficits shrank throughout Clinton's first term, and then became surpluses. You're imagining that Gingrich came along and started that trend, but the trend was already well established and is clearly visible to those who don't object to facts. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/federal-receipt-and-outlay-summary

Jennifer Dozetos
Jennifer Dozetos

Oh yeah? You know all the millions who voted Trump and why they voted? Wow you must be a millionaire with all that physic ability!

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

I'm no psychic, but I bet you didn't mean "physic ability!"

Brian Breese
Brian Breese

Jennifer, people voted for Trump because they have become unwitting victims of Republican 'supply side economics' and then bought into the standard conservative message that 'the government is the problem'. So essentially, they are feeding the bear that is killing them.

Kerry Shadrick
Kerry Shadrick

You mean the disappointment of Trump losing in a landslide? When the left gets one right, we'll let you know.

Katrina Williams
Katrina Williams

I disagree with abortion but I think its every womans right to do this and no one should tell her she cant especially if you dont know her situation.

Hicks Phil
Hicks Phil

I watch different news channels non of them show Trump or Obama smiling together in photos. ,why!

Faith Hopewell
Faith Hopewell

DON'T FOLD TRUMP, STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND DO WHAT YOU PROMISED TO DO. IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE HAVE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE.

Daniel Eason
Daniel Eason

How long do you wait until you admit you made a huge mistake?