With ‘religious liberty’ on the sidelines, an opening for campus carry

Gov. Nathan Deal. BOB ANDRES / BANDRES@AJC.COM

Gov. Nathan Deal. BOB ANDRES / BANDRES@AJC.COM

The Georgia lawmakers who head to the Eggs & Issues annual rite of passage on Tuesday morning will get an interesting reception.

Many of them voted for the “religious liberty” legislation abhorred by the top business leaders who sponsor the Georgia Chamber event. But they also put last year’s debate behind them on Monday when they opened the legislative session with no move (yet) to revive the bill.

There was no talk of a veto override to reverse Gov. Nathan Deal’s decision to nix the legislation, no push by legislative leaders to reopen that debate. Instead, House Speaker David Ralston and Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle prefaced the session with a call for federal lawmakers – and not state ones – to tackle the issue.

Left unsaid, though, is the likely return of campus carry legislation that was equally divisive. That measure would allow college students to carry concealed guns onto campuses, and Deal vetoed it only after lawmakers defied his personal request for exceptions to the expansion.

Many lawmakers see that legislation as part of a grand bargain in the works. Deal’s support for the gun rights bill could be traded for, say, backing for his failing schools initiative.

In an interview, Deal said he hasn’t closed the door on the measure this year – as long as it contains some of the changes he wanted.

“I’m not going to prejudge anything because I want to see what legislation they present,” he said. “We’ll just have to wait and see.”

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74 comments
John Lewis
John Lewis

Nathan "No" Deal need to get to work on a $15.00 an hour minimum wage bill for the state of Georgia... Georgia don't need any more gun rights and Georgia don't need anymore gun laws... Leave guns the hell alone...

Harris Dugger
Harris Dugger

There isn't enough gun dealths in GA. Less provide several more legal places to shoot people.

Ben Dendy
Ben Dendy

Guns have no place on Campus. 17-18 year ol kids have no business carrying a gun.

Clarence Garrett
Clarence Garrett

You are responsible today for your own safety. Most robberies occur that happen right outside the campus, where there is no security around.

Juanita Gates Butler
Juanita Gates Butler

good our schools and universities need to be protected. RIGHT PARENTS!!!!!!!!

Carl Dasher
Carl Dasher

No guns on College Campus My Granddaughter said NO way

Steve DeWeil
Steve DeWeil

Yes because gun free zones have worked so well haven't they. Well maybe not. If you were a nut job intent on hurting people, where would you go to increase your odds of not getting hurt yourself? Bingo, a gun free Zone. Give the man a set of steak knives.

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

Exactly, the ridiculous thing is that there have been no major gun killings on any U.S. campus that allows for concealed carry. The same can not be said for gun free zones.

Jay Ansley
Jay Ansley

Only those who have been trained and have a certificate to verify that should be allowed to carry...........MPA

Phil Woodhall
Phil Woodhall

Consummate stupidity, but about average for the Georgia legislature.

Sally Williams
Sally Williams

Just out of curiosity, for those of you claiming your right "to protect yourself" trumps anyone else's right to be safe from guns actually spend any time on college campuses?

Loren Sasha Swift
Loren Sasha Swift

What is wrong with these gun nuts??? The,first shootout on campus with police and innocent students wounded or killed doesn't concern the gun lobby??? Do these idiots remember the Texas Tower mass shootings on campus ??? Say NO to carry on campus !!!

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

The nuts are the people who kill innocent people with guns on campus. So I'm a nut for protecting and defending the people around me, weird logic...

Madison Bodenhamer
Madison Bodenhamer

Do the math: more people have voted AGAINST this bill than for it. Why is he trying to push his agenda so much when it is a very unpopular idea??????

Cynthia Reed-Perkins
Cynthia Reed-Perkins

So what happen when a student doesn't agree with the grade given by the professor? It's the mindset that pulls the trigger!

Edwin E. Akins II
Edwin E. Akins II

How about a followup story on the requests that were in the Campus Carry Veto? If the goal is safety... Gov Deal provided some common sense: "I hereby call on the leaders of the municipalities and counties in which these colleges are located, along with their law enforcement agencies to review and improve, if necessary, their security measures in areas surrounding these colleges. Since much of the motivation for HB 859 is the commission of crimes involving the use of firearms on college campuses, I suggest to the General Assembly that it consider making the unauthorized possession and/or use of a firearm on a college campus an act that carries an increased penalty or an enhanced sentence for the underlying crime." SOURCE: https://gov.georgia.gov/press-releases/2016-05-03/deal-issues-2016-veto-statements

Nick Goodson
Nick Goodson

The second amendment gives us the right , in this crazy world we must be able to defend ourselves . All the security and laws made around protecting the college and still we have these crazy people killing our kids. We must allow them to protect themselves, they are smart enough to be in college I would think they are smart enough to carry a weapon in a responsible manner.

B A Roberts
B A Roberts

If this is such a great idea, then there is no need for security or metal detectors in the state capitol or any state offices. Anyone should be able to walk into any politicians office wearing a gun at any time. Pass that, then lets talk about guns on campus.

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

Yet the guys who check for weapons possess guns, so let's get two birds with one stone and put it all in a single legislation!

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

There is no such thing as "common sense gun legislation". Tyranny is real though...

B A Roberts
B A Roberts

Or better yet, bring back the Brady bill and common sense gun legislation without NRA interference

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

Whenever your willing to submit your liberty at the expense for a false sense of security, always remember there are people like Trump who have historically come into power, and used that power you gave him at your expense. The question is, do you trust the judgement of Trump or other elected officials over your own? Have you ever felt like a political leader was nuts?

B A Roberts
B A Roberts

"A well regulated" the part the gun lobby ignores. That the courts have upheld

Fred South
Fred South

If the college snowflakes are so insecure that they cry when the election didn't go their way, they are not capable of handling a gun!

B A Roberts
B A Roberts

You forgot to say libtard and obummer. Hannity, Jones and Limbaugh won't let you in the treehouse.

Vibeke Booterbaugh
Vibeke Booterbaugh

Why would this ever be a good idea???? We need more gun control, certainly not less. Have all the tragedies taught us nothing??? Gun pro people, please don't bother replying. We can respectfully agree to disagree.

Tracy Bumgarner
Tracy Bumgarner

For what? So the students can shoot professors if they aren't happy with grades?

Arne Triplett
Arne Triplett

It had better pass if they want to get re-elected

Rod Miller
Rod Miller

"Sidelines" ... Fishwrapper spin

Ashford Schwall
Ashford Schwall

Time for Georgia to remove the infringement and adopt constitutional carry.

St'fen Anderson
St'fen Anderson

So LE even plain clothed couldn't stop a shooting? Especially ones heavily trained in active shooter settings. I don't see how a program like that wouldn't do the job.

Ian Mercer
Ian Mercer

As opposed to now where unstable people snap with nobody around to stop them on short order and are able to gun down dozens of people before the police arrive like VA tech, Umpqua State etc...

Lou Davis
Lou Davis

Free people own guns, slaves do not.

St'fen Anderson
St'fen Anderson

I'm pro 2nd amendment but being armed at school is stupid imo. Not just good people will have them and a person close to the edge can snap and take out at least a few people before another armed person can stop him or her. They could hate another student or a professor and just snap. That's a horrible situation just waiting to happen.

St'fen Anderson
St'fen Anderson

Hire more cops and expand the college police forces or do armed private security. Hell let there be plain clothed law enforcement in the lookout for violence idc. Everybody on campus doesn't need a gun.

Lou Davis
Lou Davis

No one expects everyone to carry a gun on campus, just those law-abiding citizens who want to.

St'fen Anderson
St'fen Anderson

Law abiding psychopaths will be carrying too. They exist. That's giving them a free pass to shoot if they want to or snap. They can kill before being dropped themselves.

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

Campus safety exists,but the problem is the reaction time. It can only take a few seconds if your lucky to be aware of an impending situation where you get shot, those seconds matter and can mean the difference between being dead or alive. There also is a problem with the stigma and honestly recent issues with police forces not reacting appropriately to situations that have led people to get killed, so there is also a trust factor in thr community.

Colby Jack
Colby Jack

Campus safety exists,but the problem is the reaction time. It can only take a few seconds if your lucky to be aware of an impending situation where you get shot, those seconds matter and can mean the difference between being dead or alive. There also is a problem with the stigma and honestly recent issues with police forces not reacting appropriately to situations that have led people to get killed, so there is also a trust factor in thr community.

Howard Smith
Howard Smith

one of dumbest ideas ever...not surprised it is coming from the right.

Alex Julian
Alex Julian

Police show up after the fact. What are we supposed to do during the fact?

Tracy Martin
Tracy Martin

We have an excellent police force at my school. None of us are running all around chicken little worrying about being shot. We like it the way it is.

Tracy Martin
Tracy Martin

Which school do you go to? And how many gun deaths have been reported there?

Dean Walton
Dean Walton

During an active shooter situation, the strategy with the highest chance of getting out alive is simple: HIDE

Tracy Martin
Tracy Martin

It sounds like he or she would put you out your misery. Why so scared all the time?

Alex Julian
Alex Julian

That's rich. Fear mongering about law abiding citizens being able to protect themselves and I'm the scared one.