The Jolt: Roy Moore threatens lawsuit over report that he dated a 14-year-old

Former Alabama chief justice and U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore speaks in Vestavia Hills, Ala., on Saturday. AP/Hal Yeager

A flurry of Democratic activists across the nation were posting on social media about their plans to trek to Alabama to help Doug Jones, the once-longshot U.S. Senate contender whose fortunes may have shifted with a Washington Post reported on Republican Roy Moore’s history of dating teenage girls.

But Howard Dean, the ex-Democratic National Committee chair, on Sunday offered a note of caution: “Alabama is not a place to bring in a lot of Yankees to tell them what they need to do.” His advice instead was to send cash. (Greg Bluestein)

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Moore said Sunday a lawsuit would be filed over the newspaper report, which alleged he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl four decades ago, when he was a 32-year-old bachelor.

From the Associated Press:

“Why would they come now? Because there are groups that don’t want me in the United States Senate,” he said, naming the Democratic Party and the Republican establishment and accusing them of working together. He added, “We do not plan to let anybody deter us from this race.”

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Axios reports that Steve Bannon has sent a pair of Breitbart News’ top reporters, Matt Boyle and Aaron Klein, to discredit the Washington Post’s reporting on Moore.

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But NBC News underlines the notion that actual facts may not matter. Here’s a closing paragraph in a report from Gallant, Ala., where Moore grew up:

Inside the store, a man who declined to give his name said, “This is Republican town, man. (Moore) could have killed Obama, and we wouldn’t care.”

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Should Moore file his lawsuit, this wouldn’t be the first time Alabama has been the venue for a ground-breaking court battle between politicians and the press.

In the 1960s, during the fight over segregation, the New York Times was sued by Lester Bruce Sullivan, the Montgomery, Ala., public safety commissioner, over an ad soliciting funds to defend the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against an Alabama tax-perjury indictment. Sullivan said errors contained in the advertisement were derogatory.

We’ve written about it before.

In 1964, the U.S. Supreme Court found for the newspaper, establishing a new bar in libel suits involving public figures. The “actual malice” standard requires that the plaintiff prove that the publisher of the statement in question knows that a statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of the facts.

It’s a standard that still applies, and will most likely be the reason that Moore, in the end, won’t go to court.

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Yes, former Georgia congressman Tom Price left his job as Health and Human Services secretary in September, but Politico.com reports that the investigation into his use of private jets continues – and threatens to swallow up others:

Price’s use of corporate jets appears to run afoul of federal regulations stating that private travel should be approved only when commercial flights aren’t feasible, and the inspector-general probe is likely to put a spotlight on HHS Assistant Secretary for Administration John Bardis, the official designated in department rules as overseeing the travel approval process along with the HHS general counsel’s office.

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Ryan Graham, a Libertarian challenging Republican Chuck Eaton’s re-election bid to the state Public Service Commission next year, has weighed in on the Plant Vogtle issue. From the press release:

The [PSC] should only approve the project if Georgia Power and its partners can secure funding from sources other than captive ratepayers. Investors should voluntarily take on the risk, holding Georgia Power and contractors accountable for completion of the project on time and on budget.

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A hearty congratulations to former Georgia congressman John Barrow, now a Democratic candidate for secretary of state. He tied the knot this weekend. He married Angele Hawkins, the founder of a workforce development nonprofit, at Summerour Studio in northwest Atlanta. (GB)

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jezel-dog / Coach - me
jezel-dog / Coach - me

NRSC Chairman Cory Gardner: “If he refuses to withdraw and wins, the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate.”

jezel-dog / Coach - me
jezel-dog / Coach - me

In light of the most recent allegations and the cumulative effect of others, I believe #RoyMoore would be doing himself, the state, the GOP, and the country a service by stepping aside. If he continues this will not end well for Mr. Moore.


From Lindsey Graham


Sethian
Sethian

Moore should hire Bill Clinton's spouse Hillary. 

After all, who has more experience defending against (and smearing) female accusers?

ptcrunner
ptcrunner

@Sethian Two different stories - try again. Your cynicism and 'argument' are both weak.  #What Aboutism 

RufusATL
RufusATL

@Sethian Keep at it, and I'm sure you can find a way to blame Obama also for your boy Roy's shameful behavior.

TheCentrist
TheCentrist

Actually, Good Old Boy Roy should get counseling from Bob Livingston on how to admit to your previous lifestyle.

Sethian
Sethian

Still nothing on Political Insider about former DNC Chair Donna Brazile's charge Hillary rigged the Democrat Convention.

DS
DS

I wonder if Moore will go ahead and sue. Then the WP would bring forth the 4 victims and 30 or so people they interviewed for their article to testify under oath.

I think Moore is bluffing. Let's see if he sues.

I think he's also a creep. Can't Alabama find anyone better?

Soybean Bob
Soybean Bob

A 1st year law student would get a 12-0 acquittal of roy, if not a dismissal.  folks, we dare not convict people based on testimony from folks such as these.  remember, you or a family member could be next.  i sat on a jury and heard from folks who clearly perjured themselves.  it happens every day.  i hope it doesn't happen to you.


i don't know if roy did or didn't do what is alleged.  that's not even the point.  the point is we need protection from folks who say bad things about us.


a DA is the first step... if there's evidence, indict him.  if there's convincing evidence, convict him.  but don't declare him guilty before that.  otherwise, if that's the system you want, be careful.

jezel-dog / Coach - me
jezel-dog / Coach - me

@Soybean Bob In similar cases.....the accused would be arrested....detectives would question the accuser...an indictment could be issued.....bond is not usually granted.....the state picks up the case.....either a plea is reached or there is a trial.


Most all of us would be in jail right now....based on the accusations.

TheCentrist
TheCentrist

So what's with the legal stuff? There is nothing unusual or illegal for a grown a$$ man like Good Old Boy Roy dating teenagers, particularly where he comes from.

Holding GOBR accountable for a high standard for character, integrity, moral values, and perceived Christian mores is a whole different discussion.

irishmafia1457
irishmafia1457

Coming soon, the PC thought police will demand all men who ever had a sexual thought about a woman will need to confess and be punished

TheCentrist
TheCentrist

No, just over 30 grown men of high Christian values dating high school kids need to confess as having chronophilia tendencies and take the public ridicule.

Robert1959
Robert1959

Let me be very clear to all those people (republican or democrat) who want to give a child molesting pervert like Roy Moore the benefit of a doubt. If a grown 32 year old man sexually assaulted my 14 year old daughter he would be looking down the barrel of my colt 45. I don't care if it happened over 40 years ago.

BDCoole
BDCoole

The Gallant, AL man may be accurate. Marrying young--before age16-- may still be legal in AL. It wasn't that long ago that the average lifetime was around 50 years old and older men wedded teenagers. A different time and place, like Alabama.The real story is Moore represents an anachronistic time, and he has to lie by omission that he dated teenage girls half of his age. See Jerry Lee Lewis. 

DS
DS

@BDCoole Nope. In Alabama, marriage age is 18, or 16 with parental consent.

"Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone older than 12 and younger than 15 has committed sexual abuse in the second degree..."

"The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

And Moore was a District Attorney at the time. He knew he was breaking the law. Still did it anyway.

What a creep.

Caius
Caius

A suit means Moore would have to testify and be cross examined.

Not going to happen.

The big question is : if Moore wins, will the Senate actually seat him?  I'm betting no, he will  not be seated.


Robert1959
Robert1959

@Caius Yes he will be seated.  The GOP only cares about holding on to their slim majority.  What will happen when Roy Moore sexually assaults another child?  Roy Moore is a pervert and child molester.

Robert1959
Robert1959

What is shocking about Roy Moore is some republican leaders tried to use the Bible to justify his actions.  I hope real Pastors and Preachers reach out to the People of Alabama and invite them to their Bible Preaching/Teaching Churches so they can hear the truth about the Virgin Mary and the Virgin birth of Jesus Christ  - "The Immaculate Conception".  Let's all reach out to the People of Alabama with humility and forgivenes

Caius
Caius

@Robert1959 Sir, the "Immaculate Conception" is not about the conception of Jesus in the womb of Mary.


That being said, the Bible has nothing to do with Moore molesting a young girl.

Robert1959
Robert1959

@Caius @Robert1959 I would like to invite you to my Bible Preaching/Teaching Church so you can hear the truth about the Virgin Mary and the Virgin birth of Jesus Christ  - "The Immaculate Conception"  This is a teaching moment....

Corey
Corey

Imagine if such accusations were against a black, gay man who had tried to hit on a 14 year old white male!! The outrage would be from corner to corner of the heart of Dixie. Such a candidate would get less than zero votes, before being run up a tree with a noose around his neck. However, as a white, heterosexual male, the excuses (however pathetic) are ceaseless and Mr Moore remains a viable candidate for the republican party. In Alabama politics, racism, homophobia and a patriarchal view of society have a peculiar way of coming in very handy.  

creative
creative

@Corey Who has made excuses?  Can you provide some links or quotes?  

TheCentrist
TheCentrist

Start with Ed Henry, and Google for others on your own.

Corey
Corey

Why didn't ABC's Martha Raddatz ask spokesmonster Kellyanne how a 14-year-old schoolgirl could have even known where Moore lived, what the driveway to his house looked like, that he played guitar? Why was she allowed to parade her 'I don't know either party' scam on national TV like that?

Moore is a strutting Pharisee and phony if one ever walked the earth. His MO also happens to be the same as most child molesters. Sick to death of hearing imbeciles and fools defend him. 

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

Bring on the law suit , you molester. Take a lie detector test first!

NeboSuki1
NeboSuki1

Who knew the "R" next to a Republican's name stood for "Rapist."

BDCoole
BDCoole

@NeboSuki1 You're just a  partisan hack. Can you say Weiner? It's not about political parties, it's about men. See #me too. 

NeboSuki1
NeboSuki1

@BDCoole what you seem to conveniently forget is...we lock up our perverts, Repugs just elect them

irishmafia1457
irishmafia1457

@NeboSuki1 @BDCoole of course your correct; Weiner, Spitzer, Kennedy, Clinton , Condit, Menendez, WU, Edwards, Barney Frank, Gary Hart, et al. were never elected were they?

Tealiban_Party
Tealiban_Party

And where is Weiner right now? Jail - for texting. Same place Roy Moore should be - for child molestation.

Corey
Corey

... and at the meeting was Jose E.B. Antonio, Duterte's trade envoy to the U.S., and who is also Trump's partner on a luxury tower in Manila ... any questions why Trump is so fond of Duterte? 

Corey
Corey

Another Republican fox caught with feathers in his mouth. 

IggyDad
IggyDad

Cut from the same mold as trump. When will these "moral values" voters finally wake up?

NeboSuki1
NeboSuki1

That's just like the time trump said he was going to sue ALL the women who claimed he sexually harassed them?  Yep, still waiting for those lawsuits.